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FujiNet

I did a search here and can find nothing on FujiNet.  It looks like an excellent resource for multiple retro, including Apple II, platforms, and seems to does it all, from Smartport and floppy EMU-type support, Internet access, printing emulation and printing support, CP/M emulation, etc, with ongoing development and a relative minimal investment.  Anyone familiar with FujiNet?

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Information on FujiNet is

Information on FujiNet is widely available...

 

https://fujinet.online

 

 

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I am aware.  I was just

I am aware.  I was just curious as to why it has generated zero discussion here.

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Hard to purchase?

Last time I checked, it was expensive and inventory is usually out of stock. That was from the project leaders web site, and the first couple of links to other online sellers were either out of stock or had even larger markups. The product is around $100 and for many people that is still a lot of money. Save for the habit of abusing credit cards, it might be too expensive for most.

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mreg376 wrote:I am aware.  I
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I am aware.  I was just curious as to why it has generated zero discussion here.

 

 

It gets mentioned around here some, but the other comments about it aren't wrong.

 

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Wizard1969 wrote:Last time I
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Last time I checked, it was expensive and inventory is usually out of stock. That was from the project leaders web site, and the first couple of links to other online sellers were either out of stock or had even larger markups. The product is around $100 and for many people that is still a lot of money. Save for the habit of abusing credit cards, it might be too expensive for most.

 

One off the things that I think keeps FujiNet from being more popular related to cost is it is nearly as expensive as a BMOW FloppyEmu and while it has some intresting features like WiFi, it doesn't emulate a floppu drive like the FloppyEmu.

 

And FWIW, it is more expensive than other options for slotted Apple II like the Dan ][ card, Booti, etc.  The Dan ][ of course does wired Ethernet instead of WiFi.  And FujiNet for slotted Apple II requires some kind of SmarPort card like a LiROM which is rate and expensive or something like the SmartDiskII (which I've never got to work) or a LIRONGP equipped Grappler+.

 

For the //c or IIgs FuJiNet makes a little more sense since they don't need another card to do SmartPort, but the //c is a small part of the Apple II installed base.

 

I'm personally bullish on VIBR's STM32 based floppy emulator project.  It is much cheaper than FujiNet and once the firmware is 100% will be able to do both floppy and ProDOS block device emulation.

 

I have an older version of the FujiNet but I've never really gotten it to work.

 

 

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Ahh.  I soured on the Dan ][

Ahh.  I soured on the Dan ][ because I could never master the peculiarties of getting files onto the card and the wired Ethernet seemed about 1/5th the speed of the ESP32 Softward Wifi.  I tried the Microdrive Turbo but it apparently cannot live with a Z80 card, something not mentioned in any of the docs, and which I want to keep.

So I'm going to give Fujinet a try.  I found a recommended Smartport card for $25 including shipping and I will be able to connect the Fujinet module to my 5.25 floppy chain.  The firmware has been updated several times, so I'm hoping for a better experience than you've had.  That being said, it may just be my latest disaster...   

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That's probably the wrong question
mreg376 wrote:

I am aware.  I was just curious as to why it has generated zero discussion here.

In just the last month, this is the third thread with FujiNet in the title...and there have been mentions in comments too.  Recent threads include Looking for an Apple II FujiNet (last updated 6 June) and FujiNet - How you can help! (31 May)

 

FujiNet didn't show up in your searches because the word "FujiNet" seems to poison the site's search feature.   (Even appending "OR FujiNet" onto a search causes all  results to disappear.)   I don't know why that's the case, but I stumbled across this behavior long ago -- there are various arbitrary keywords that seem to 'poison' the search feature.  When I stumble across such a keyword, I use Google's "site:applefritter.com" feature to search instead. 

 

Some examples from Google, via the "site:" keyword:

 

Perhaps a more relevant question is why the site's search tools seem to be blocking "FujiNet" in searches.  Even this thread does not appear in search results.

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S.Elliott wrote:...FujiNet
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FujiNet didn't show up in your searches because the word "FujiNet" seems to poison the site's search feature. 
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It doesn’t look like word poisoning or blocking to me, but more like the site search not being indexed in years, so only very old content from the last decade appear in the search results.

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I have also noticed that the

I have also noticed that the site's search stinks, but I never attributed it to malice, only to the fact that sadly a lot of site search on forum software is awful.  CVT's theory about someone needing to run indexing is a definite possibility though.  Perhaps Tom will look into that if he notices this thread?

 

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Why not both?
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It doesn’t look like word poisoning or blocking to me, but more like the site search not being indexed in years, so only very old content from the last decade appear in the search results.

 

It looks like both.

 

Word poisoning was definitely happening, but experimentation suggests it was the "OR" keyword -- it's case sensitive.  Uppercase "OR" works like a boolean OR operator, while lowercase "or" just kills the search.  Example:

  1. Uppercase: "taxan OR grappler" returns 46 results.
  2. Lowercase: "taxan or grappler" returns 0 results.

 

But even when the search does find things, all the hits are dated 2018 or earlier... so the search index is undoubtedly out-of-date too.

 

Using Google's site: keyword isn't a perfect solution because their site crawler finds keywords that appear in the sidebar.  For example, Google is now generating a lot of false-positives for "FujiNet" in lots of threads that don't discuss FujiNet, simply because this thread's title currently appears in the Recent Content sidebar for those pages.

 

BONUS!

Testing other keywords like  intitle:  and   intext:  caused the AI summary to append a "Note" that refers specifically to this discussion and your own comment:

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Discord is the best place for

Discord is the best place for FujiNet discussions from what I can tell.

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Fujinet for Apple II

I have an original Fujinet from Materies that I got a little over two years ago. Had some problems with it after first getting it but talking with both him and Thomas Cherryhome I was able to get things working correctly. Haven't used the online capability very much, since I have a very large library of Apple II software that I downloaded over the years from various sites on the Intermet.

 

Have it plugged into my Apple //c+ and am enjoying not having to put a 3.5 disk into the computer. Have recently explored a couple sites online with it but there isn't anything there that I don't already have. Recently decided to buy a newer one from Joe's Computer Museum. The only complaint I have is that after ordering, and receiving, the base unit I discovered that I needed to order the adapter to plug it into my ROM 3 GS.

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I have the FujiNet device

I have the FujiNet device that I purchased from mozzwald's website:  https://mozzwald.com/product/fujinet-for-apple-ii-iii/

You're correct in your assessment that it is out of stock, but I think this particular flavour of the FujiNet is the best form factor.  It comes with the 19 pin adapter and thumbscrews to secure it to the back of a IIc or IIGS and is 20-pin compatible with slotted IIs with the use of a SoftSP and a regular garden variety Disk II controller card.  I've tested it with this one:  https://en.infinityproducts.co.jp/product-page/grappler-minus-fully-assembled-card-or-bare-pcb.  

It also works with a  Liron card. Rare, yes, but the Liron Reborn is pretty inexpensive.

You can get a Liron Reborn card from Apple II Heaven: https://www.a2heaven.com/webshop/index.php?rt=product/product&product_id=186  It too says out of stock, but usually an email to the site owner, Plamen Vasilyov will spur him to build five or six and sell one to you.

 

 

Anyway, the FujiNet, in my opinion is a pretty clever little card.  It's wifi feature is pretty cool and the developers have created some neat software (like the space station tracker and the weather software) to take advantage of it.  There's even a rudimentary terminal program if you want to call BBS systems via telnet.

I especially like the feature whereby you can dispense with an SD card completely and download your disk images from a tnfs server somewhere on your home LAN (an old laptop or obsolete dektop computer is perfect for this sort of thing).

 

 

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I have a "Masteries" version

I have a "Masteries" version of FujiNet, it's compact and works flawlessly. My only pet peeves are that the interface is not very intuitive, and the programs available are few. On the positive side it's like having a modem, SD Floppy emulator and printer at the same time, it also supports CP/M but i honestly haven't tried it. Is my go-to hardware to log in to BBS' as it emulates modems flawlessly.Overall it's a great product, just focused more on programming than multi faceted hardware. You can buy one right away from JCM-1.com:https://jcm-1.com/product/fujinet-for-apple-ii/

 

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