Running a G3 AIO Motherboard without the personality card?

It will work without the personality card in OS X but not OS 9. It comes up with a system error upon boot without the Personality card. OS X doesnt use the card for anything so it works under OS X.

Not true! When I was overclocking my beige, I removed the wings card so I could get to the jumper block easier. When I put it back toghether, I forgot to put in the card. It worked fine without it, but I got no boot chime.

John

you had no boot chime cause you have no audio the audio that powers the speakers comes from the personality card so if you have no personality card you have no sound.

but you can use the video cause of the onboard video port. make shure you have proper cooling

are there USB sound cards for OS9?

are there USB sound cards for OS9?

The older (silver-colored) Griffin iMics worked just spiffily under OS9. Haven't tried my newer (white) iMic in an OS9 box yet. I'll try later today and report back.

Have a look in the archive for previous discussions about what does and doesn't work with the beige G3 board w/o personality card. I think it is just sound and networking, but without them, I can't think of anything useful to do with the Mac!

but wont a pci card be to high for the case. there is no onboard usb on the Beige G3. if he had to take out the personality card cause it wont fit then how is he going to put pci card's in. or is it not a hight limit

There's the option of using a right-angle adapter for a PCI card, much in the same way as the PDS AV card was installed in the 6100.

well, if you look at a PCI usb card, you notice that the card its self is only 1 - 1.5 inches high, if you take off the metal bracket, it would most likely be the same hight as the CPU heatsink.

John

this is all killer news to me as i have an AIO and a USB pci card. i plan on making it fit into some case and ditch the CRT. its all functioning perfectly as of right now but its just way too big! ill probly use a right angle PCI riser for my 16mb ATI rage card that im not using....

yea the ethernet will work cause its on the mobo, cant you just put a sound card in insted of useing usb for sound. it would be hard to fit more then one pci card in with the right angle pci adapters unless you can get them at diffrent hight and stair step them so you can get more than 1 pci card installed. it would be cool tho to get all 3 pci cards to fit in a mod like that

there are double and tripple risers out there, really neat stuff for servers that ive seen. a little pricey but will work very well.

I've always wondered if the single and double right angle risers out of 54/5500 and 64/6500s would work. Cause, you know, I seem to have more of them lying around to strip than I do rackmount servers.

the risers ive seen are universal, the PCB board goes directly into a pci slot and cables go into the other slots if there are more then 1 on the riser. ive seen some for AGP and other slots as well, just google riser cards. there are tons, all different prices too.

yea that should make it so you can use all 3 pci slot's or at least 2

there are some for 3 as well

That's a really good bit of fitting.

Any chance you could provide us with the manufacturer and model # of that power supply? Or where you got it?

Now...it needs a laptop CD in there

Have you thought of *minor* things, like, oh, say... Cooling? you will need a fan on the CPU if you are going to do this.
I think the G3's running pretty hot as CPU's, but, without proper cooling, it's going to crash as fast as a WinME machine (sorry, i just HATE That Operating system).

So you will need to think of a way to cool them. The early PowerPC's Ran pretty cool (up to the 604, which was the time it REALLY heated up)
I had a dead fan in my AIO case, that I had to replace when I got it, as the machine kept crashing (at the original speed) and I didn't find out until I noticed that it actually had a fan in the system.
So you will need to find a better cooling for that system. At least get yourself a copper heatsink and get a nice BIG fan on it. Then fashion your own cover. The LC's is going to kill it from the heat that builds up under the hood.

man that is a tight spot tho i wonder if any of the pci riser's would work even if you was able to get one to work in it it would creat more of a cooling problem.

ok you know the dreamcast and the fan in it. try to find a few fana as small as that to mount in that case they would be small enuff not to take up much space and dont have a big power consumtion.

heck, the fan from my powerbook is like 25mm, im sure a ton of those would work

Is that the stock power supply? And it looks as if you cut the bottom out of the case to fit it in there... right?

If you get crafty with some craft materials (leftover case scraps, cardboard, hot glue whatever) you could maybe create a duct from the PS fan to the CPU and get some air movement over the heatsink.