Classic II problems

Well my dad WAS nice enough to hand me a torx, but appantly its too short. and remember what i said:

he wont let me buy another torx.

now what!!!!!!!!

as many would say, your SOL

maybe that is why he gave you a torx driver that was to short to reach (just a twisted way to tell you in short that you cant fix it). like a few said before, it sounds hopeless to ask or to get your dad to sit with you to help you fix it. you might as well sell it to someone that will fix it and you get the money out of it. what's the since of owning it if you are not allowed to do anything with it or to have your dad to sit down with you and help you fix it, there is no reason other then to have it to look at it, but what good is that.

i just cant understand some people.

Every family household has a long complex history with complex relationships so it's not always wise to second guess what's going on in a house. There may be all kinds of reasons for the behavior of the characters involved, things that are not apparent, and personally, I wouldn't go stepping across thresholds and making judgments. Dad may have very good reasons. Does he not know it's not long enough? Did you tell him that? Have you shown him this thread? He might be quite fascinated to see how many people are participating here and how much energy has happened around your simple post. And you know, most of us are not teenagers. There are professionals in the field here with many years of experience. I'd say, if he reads this thread and then says no way, it's dead in the water.

The only thing is, before you open the case, you should get some RAM to replace what's in there. If you change the RAM, put the case back together, turn it on, still get the black lines, but not the chimes of death, then the RAM was bad and you probably still have leaking capacitors. Like was said previously, if all you have is the black and white lines, if you leave it on, after 10 or 15 minutes it may just pop into life which will confirm that diagnosis. But the getting of the RAM may make this all moot anyway--back to eBay--unless maybe someone has some to pass along.

But show this thread to Dad. He may, at least, get a chuckle out of it.

Hey shyguy, congratulations! It's a rare thread that makes it past 50 posts. You're in the hall of fame.

I honestly would suggest against showing this thread to the father. An on-edge father, upset at the son for reasons unbeknownst to all of us, could be set off by this thread despite it not having too much ill to say of the man. Seriously, I would strongly advise against using internet dialog to change the mind of a father. Better for the son to do that in another way, through his own actions at home.

In case the de-casing of the Classic II ever actually happens, this thread may be of help:
http://www.applefritter.com/node/21583

You may notice that on that thread I didn't even consider putting in a warning. I don't think it even crossed my mind. Obviously, the OP of that thread knew what's what and was experienced so there was nothing to strike fear. It's only on threads like this one where I feel compelled to put in a warning where I have fears about the experience and knowledge of the original poster. Like I said earlier, it's a judgment call, but the truth is, these threads are archived and live on beyond the initial conversation, and someone in the future with no experience may use them as guides, so I would still think a simple warning placed at the top of the thread or something by the moderator would seem appropriate--you know, something that was obviously automatically generated by the topic with a disclaimer. That's what I would do if this were my forum, for protection for the novice and protection for myself. You could probably design it so it wasn't too intrusive or annoying. It's not my forum, though, so I'll drop the subject already.

Hey ... Yippie-Ki-Yay,

William
www.williamahearn.com

I was not aware that Tom Lee's articles had been originally published under a rock beside a remote highway. Rather, they have been susceptible to Googling since their first copyright dates, at least. I need not emulate your debating style other than to note that you did not refer to them in any one of your preceding ten posts, nor did you quote any of their rational conclusions and mention of significant other risks. Thus you also won the tiresome opinionation stakes by at least a 900% margin, so you have little room for righteous fervor in perception of that offence in someone else.

de

Hey,

You said:

"I was not aware that Tom Lee's articles had been originally published under a rock beside a remote highway. Rather, they have been susceptible to Googling since their first copyright dates, at least."

Whatever. You win whatever you think is at stake here. Really. I never heard of Tom Lee until you brought him up. And -- with no reflection on his work -- I never needed his articles to feel safe opening a compact Mac. To me, the important thing here is the second part and not the first.

William
www.williamahearn.com

In the midst of all our squabbling, I notice shyguy345 hasn't posted since January 2. I'm afraid we've shown him our worst side, and we've probably scared him off -- from AppleFritter and from Macs in general -- for good. Nice going.

Well he is a shy guy, after all.

As to Tom Lee, I have nothing but the greatest respect for his classic Mac insights:

http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/plus_analog.PDF

He is also very active on 68kMLA and JAG's House Forum (despite Jag's forum being so bad these days).

Did Dad buy you that?

I'm confused. Was this thread started in sincerity?

I wouldn't think too hard on that. You might end up in doubt of all of Applefritter and end up having to run off to some ashram for the next ten years to regain your center and your trust of all humanity. I've long suspected there's a least one character who hangs out here and masquerades under different names, starting threads, feigning ignorance and incompetence, just for some kind of personal demented humor. Such a thing happening on the web? Who would have thunk it? I'm sure none of us here, in our younger days, ever went into a chatroom pretending to be the opposite sex. All the web's a stage, and all the men and women, and women men and men women, merely players. It's a regular digital Vaudeville. A world of illusory meanings where identity is jello and transformations are a constant occurrence. Come into my web, said the spiders to the fly.

I can't find a copy of anything but references to the old New Yorker (1993) cartoon that gave us the quote "On the Internet no one nows if you are a dog." It stands up well. I seem to recall it either continued or someone else said further " and no one cares either." Modernizing it would be akin to "On the Internet no one know if you are a troll."

EDIT: Interestingly less restrictive Googling brought it right up. http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html

Also the inverse has come up. http://technology.findlaw.com/articles/00006/010730.html