Rhapsody

I heard a rumor that an early version of Rhapsody booted on an ANS...
I've been asking about it ever since...
If anyone knows where/how to get a copy of this, it would fulfill a childhood dream of mine. (well, not quite... but you get the idea)

I'd be happy just to get whatever ran underneath it (some early Darwin version perhaps) to boot on an ANS. Even getting it to boot OpenStep or NextStep would satisfy me.

SOME one MUST know SOMETHING!!!

I have the original CD's for Rhapsody DR1 and DR2, and I am pretty sure neither of them ran on on the ANS. I could be wrong though. I haven't read the documentation on them in ages. I will check when I get home tomorrow though.

The last time I played with them, I installed DR2 on old 7300/200. What a hassle that was to install! The 7300 series powermacs weren't officially supported by DR2, but with a little work and some help from the DR1 CD, I managed to get it to run. It was interesting, but there wasn't much to do with it. Playing with Blue Box was fun though.

I also have the DR1 release for PC compatibles. I've never had a compatible PC to run it, but I've always been curious to see how it would run on one.

That said, I will not make copies of these CD's. Sorry folks. I don't have an NDA signed, but the guy I got them from did. He may have broken his for me, but I don't feel like I can betray his trust by copying these for others.

Most lawyers will tell you, NDAs are not worth the paper they are printed on...

But if Apple can track those very discs to your friend, I guess I understand. All a man has is his word.

I'll bet someone has posted what you have on a newsgroup somewheres... I never thought to look...

I will trade the service CD that I got with my iBook for the PC ones

Perhaps if you included the iBook...

I use the iBook for business. But if you want a stripped down PowerComputing PowerBase that I have listed in the FS forums. It'a yours for the trade

I was only kidding about the iBook. Honestly, I couldn't let them go. Loyalty to a friend and all. The one and only time I saw any Rhapsody on eBay, it sold for over a hundred bucks. I have 6 of these things. I've been tempeted to sell them, or trade them, or something. My conscience just won't let me.

sorry for hijacking the post!!
And guskid... Those may be worth a lot the day your friend (if he decides to leave) strays away from the Lighter side [*sounds of cherubs with harps, and a holy *awwwww*]

i say post a .dmg image of them on an ftp somewhere for a day or two.

I don't think so. When these were given to me it was under the express condition that I wouldn't share them with anyone else. I'm not trying to advocate piracy, but if people are that interested, I am sure there are other places to obtain them. It won't be from me though. Sorry!

Please help refresh my memory...was Rhapsody the OS for the CHRP program? Did non-Apple hardware have to be a PowerPC processor, or could a x86 machine conceivably support this OS?

tony b.

Rhapsody was the precursor to OS X Server 1.x, and then to today's Mac OS X. Rhapsody consisted of a GUI that combined elements of NeXT and Classic Mac OS, using NeXT's Display Postscript graphics subsystem, running on top of the Mach Kernel/BSD foundation that powered NeXTStep, and OpenStep, and now OS X.

Rhapsody was for a small group of PCI Power Macs (and, unofficially, the PCI-based Powerbooks of the era, the 2400 and 3400). Later releases of Rhapsody also included a version for Intel x86 CPUs.

When Rhapsody became Mac OS X Server 1.x, the x86 version of Rhapsody died.

IIRC Rhapsody DR1 came out in '96; Rhapsody for x86 came out in '97 or '98; and OS X Server 1.0 came out in '99.

Rhapsody and Mac OS X Server 1.x remain Apple property and it is illegal to sell or distribute homemade copies. Such copies do exist, however, and are pretty much all over the internet.

I've never successfully installed Rhapsody DR1 or DR2 on anything. I tried on my Powerbook 2400 but it wouldn't work - either because the 2400 isn't actually supported (rumor says it and the 3400 are, but I've only ever seen reports of success with 3400s), or because my 2400's PMU may be messed up from years of relative inactivity.

OS X Server 1.x, however, is really easy to install on a PCI Power Mac, and fun (if limited) to use. Also, the BlueBox environment (the precursor to the Classic Environment) is Mac OS 8.6, and is nice and fast, and pretty stable.

Here are some pics of OS X Server 1.2 booting, in Workspace Manager (NeXT-ish version of the Finder), and in OS 8.6 BlueBox environment:

http://homepage.mac.com/mruben/macstuff/PhotoAlbum51.html

Matt

was Rhapsody the OS for the CHRP program?

I believe what you're thinking of is Taligent.

I tried to install Rhapsody DR2 on a PM 7100/80 once. It has a firm requirement of a 120Mhz 604 or better. The installer will halt if it can't find the right processor. As well, I think you needed 32 or 64MB of RAM (but I can't remember for sure).

I've seen Rhapsody screen shots various places over the net, and it looks like a very cool OS. Personally, I prefer the Classic interface to the X interface (just my humble opinion). However, X is a much better OS, just not as visually appealing to me. Combining the stability of X and the User Interface of Classic is something that's very appealing to me.

Cheers,

The Czar

I tried to install Rhapsody DR2 on a PM 7100/80 once. It has a firm requirement of a 120Mhz 604 or better. The installer will halt if it can't find the right processor. As well, I think you needed 32 or 64MB of RAM (but I can't remember for sure).

It also requires a PCI-based machine.

--Peace

Well, to be honest, it wasn't all that great. It was slow and applications would crash fairly often. Granted I was running a 200mhz 604e processor vs. my curent 1.33 ghz powerbook. Also the fact that Mac OS X is now a mature OS while Rhapsody DR2 was very much still under constructions plays a big part.

Is there any cool sites that describe the history and timeline of Rhapsody? What was Rhapsody supposed to evolve into? Or did it evolve into X? I always wished that Apple would have bought out Glasse's BeOS and turned that into X. Maybe combined the best of Job's Next os and the BeOS.

For that matter, what is X a direct descendent of? I wasn't really a big apple person back in the mid-later 90's so I never paid any real attention to the various OSs.

You might want to check out:

http://www.shawcomputing.net/rhapsody/misc.html

As for Apple buying out Be, Inc. instead of NeXT...there many articicles out there about how Apple made the right choice. I liked BeOS back in the day, but it didn't really stack up against what NeXT had to offer.

Oh, and as I understand it, Apple now employs some former Be, Inc. employees and is putting them to good use. So, in some aspects, certain things from BeOS have crept into Mac OS X.

An old Dolch LCD panel? Cool. I gotta remember to see if my father-in-law still wants to keep that old Dolch LPAC 586 I setup...

You wouldn't believe how many people have emailed me asking if this item was for sale.

I got it when I was looking for a small LCD on eBay, to use with all my old non-all-in-one Macs. Being purely for hobby/'fritterly interest, I wasn't willing to pay more than $100 - including shipping - for it. After a couple of months I was lucky enough to find this one, which happened also to match the hacked, black G3 "Quadra 700/7100" project I was working on.

The only problem is this: the panel's native resolution is 800x600 from what I can tell - but because it's so old and was meant for industrial purposes, its controller only seems to work with low refresh rates. (I called Dolch to ask about this, and they said, stifling a chuckle, that it was so old they no longer have any info on it!)

Like a VGA-hacked Color Classic's screen, it seems to "want" a refresh rate below 60Hz for resolutions above 640x480 (A VGA CC wants 56Hz at 800x600). And I can't find a video card - at least not a NuBus video card for my Q7100 - that will put out a refresh rate that low at 800x600 - so the monitor won't sync except at 640x480 resolution. (And I can't use the Apple HPV or AV card, because with a G3 upgrade and pass-through cable installed, the card rides too high - the Quadra 700 case isn't as high as the 7100 case.)

Other that that, though, it's a whole lot of fun. And it's built like a tank and easy to open up and fiddle with.

In fact, if I ever come across a standard Sharp-compatible VGA LCD controller for less than EarthLCD's $199 price, I'll just swap it for the Dolch monitor's current controller, and I should be good to go. Come to think of it, I could also swap in a newer Sharp 10.4" LCD panel, which would improve brightness, contrast and response time a bit.

But all that said, this little monitor is a heck of a lot of fun, and with a cheap Mac-VGA adapter it happily works at 640x480 with any multisync-compatible Mac, meaning I can take my old, heavy 13" and 14" "testbed" CRT monitors and dump them.

Matt